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Post Re: Turbo kit for the sixer soon to come!
on: July 8, 2012, 15:24
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yep hellion is the best, Take a look at BBR's staff for example, all running hellion, actually john lund.... beleive he's hellion also, Jpac can vouche for this since he has BBR's best forged motor in his GT and has BBR tune his stang also, there is a saying "you get what you pay for"! This is a pretty accurtate saying most of the time, having sixer we all now torque is much needed that's for sure. Thing to keep in mind is for most applications the power these kits make people forget when they push it to far they need to upgrade the motors, jpac found this out when he blew his stock motor on the dyno, apparently his 2.3 whipple can easily push a stock 4.6 motor beyond it's limits so he had to upgrade

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Post Re: Turbo kit for the sixer soon to come!
on: July 9, 2012, 21:13
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You get what you pay for but u also have to remember most prices are not designed with quality in mind they are designed with. Labor+research+materials+200 percent profit divided on ________ years to gain profit.... I other words capitalistic mentality is to profit as much as possible to milk something into the point were u reached profit. So the terms you get what you pay for isn't exactly always accurate .

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on: July 9, 2012, 23:39
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Not allways true but in this case i would say so, the extra grand for the hellion kit is more than worth it, the torque numbers being laid down on the dyno by the prochargers for the sixer are just plane horrible. Before Hellion actually designed this kit they let me know that when it's finished it will Trump the procharger... By the looks of the dyno they sent me i would have to say they achieved this statement, unfortunately with only having six vs 8 cylinders torque is much needed, not to mention the addictive sound of a turbo spooling :-) more pros then cons

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on: July 10, 2012, 22:28
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Stitched I would just like to inform u that the extra 1200$ is not worth it simple factors the installation is a lot more complicated there for you might not be able to do it yourself, and I haven't seen any dyno sheet yet until they start putting they money were there mouth is they haven't achieved shit I spoke to hellion a while back and they were clamping 167+ hp Procharger claimed 175+ the numbers you are comparing are inconsistent first of all look at glens car he was the first to supercharge making 427rwhp ((((((((STOCK)))))))) with that 1200$ extra you can change pulley get methinjection and stI'll have left over money at witch case will give you a whole lot more power also keep in mind since hellion turbo is much harder to install than a supercharger you might be better off taking it to someone to do it btw. I was being charged 1200$ for the installation of my Procharger wich I ended up doing myself. I can't think what they will charge for the turbo kit... So that's over 2500$ that you can save I say the Procharger is a lot more worth it.. Is it better maybe not because this is a v6 but is it more reliable 100% ((((YES)))).

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Post Re: Turbo kit for the sixer soon to come!
on: July 11, 2012, 11:47
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Quote from nitro444 on July 10, 2012, 22:28
Stitched I would just like to inform u that the extra 1200$ is not worth it simple factors the installation is a lot more complicated there for you might not be able to do it yourself, and I haven't seen any dyno sheet yet until they start putting they money were there mouth is they haven't achieved shit I spoke to hellion a while back and they were clamping 167+ hp Procharger claimed 175+ the numbers you are comparing are inconsistent first of all look at glens car he was the first to supercharge making 427rwhp ((((((((STOCK)))))))) with that 1200$ extra you can change pulley get methinjection and stI'll have left over money at witch case will give you a whole lot more power also keep in mind since hellion turbo is much harder to install than a supercharger you might be better off taking it to someone to do it btw. I was being charged 1200$ for the installation of my Procharger wich I ended up doing myself. I can't think what they will charge for the turbo kit... So that's over 2500$ that you can save I say the Procharger is a lot more worth it.. Is it better maybe not because this is a v6 but is it more reliable 100% ((((YES)))).

.... then read my friend, try going to page 9 in this thread and you will notice the dyno sheet that hellion sent me
;-) "HP sells cars, Torque wins races"
Yes on 8 psi glen made 427 whp ..... 344ft lbs torque....
almost 100 less torque then whp......
yea ummmm that torque number is horrible man!
on 5 psi Hellions kit made 398whp, 384 ft lbs ;-)
Hellion has a fella down the road from them that does a lot
of their installs since hellion usually can only do the
installs from nov-feb due to being so busy
for the install and dyno it's $1,000
not to bad a price at all

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Post Re: Turbo kit for the sixer soon to come!
on: July 11, 2012, 12:30
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god knows what they might do, one thing i noticed is if you let someone do work on your car you will never know what exactly has been done to your car, i do like the torque numbers but it would be a bargain if it was the same price..

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on: July 11, 2012, 12:32
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tell me why does the kit have to be 1000 $ more give me one good reason....

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on: July 11, 2012, 13:29
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PARTS. A turbo kit has more parts involved (i.e. Intercooler, blow off valve, wastegate)

I don't understand why there is a pissing contest going on here lol. No one is saying anything against the Procharger kit. It's all preference between s/c and turbo. They both have pros and cons.

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on: July 11, 2012, 13:49
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Yeah, geez, give it up guys.

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Post Re: Turbo kit for the sixer soon to come!
on: July 11, 2012, 17:28
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Quote from Kona_Girl_11 on July 11, 2012, 13:29
PARTS. A turbo kit has more parts involved (i.e. Intercooler, blow off valve, wastegate)

I don't understand why there is a pissing contest going on here lol. No one is saying anything against the Procharger kit. It's all preference between s/c and turbo. They both have pros and cons.

I would like to know the parts list because I highly doubt there are more parts involved, the only thing Iight consider more expensive is the piping

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Post Re: Turbo kit for the sixer soon to come!
on: July 11, 2012, 17:34
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Oh so your s/c kit came with a wastegate, bov, and intercooler?

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on: July 11, 2012, 17:56
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Oh my bad, I just saw that it has an intercooler, but I forgot about the down pipe and manifolds that they have to produce a well, so that's a whole lot of money right there, plus the wastegate.

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